> Platt, > > what if the wind blows? Isnt that experience? > > -KO
KO, The wind is a heap of atoms and molecules put in motion by heat and changes in atmospheric pressures. So no, wind doesn't experience. Nor does rain, lightning, thunder and other weather phenomena. Platt > > 2009/4/26 Platt Holden <[email protected]> > > > Hey Ham, > > > > [Ham] > > > The Pirsigians will cheer at your conclusion, because they believe > atoms > > > and > > > rocks make conscious evaluations. > > > > No, Ham, Pirsigians do not believe rocks make conscious evaluations. > You > > have conflated atoms and rocks. They are not the same. Ken Wilber makes > the > > distinction clear: atoms are wholes, rocks are heaps. Wholes are > entities > > like atoms, molecules and cells They react to experience according to > > their level, inorganically or biologically. Rocks and other heaps like > > clouds, clothes and cars do not react to experience. > > > > Regards, > > Platt > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
