[Joe]
.... Communication of an individual¹s conceptualization is obscure and 
difficult ...

[Andrew]
Roger that, Joe.
Yours in jest ... as always ...



--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Joseph Maurer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MD] Rhetoric and madness:
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 9:30 PM

On Monday 11 May 2009 10:39 AM Ron suggests:

A must read, I recommend to Both Marsha and especially Bo.
 
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~consigny/pirsig.html
 

Hi Ron and all,

I am not a scientist or a mathematician! The ³I² at the beginning of the
previous sentence is a conceptualized construct.

Is the procedure for conceptualizing MOQ resulting in meaningful discourse
the same as conceptualizing the ³I² of the first sentence?

³I² accept conceptualizing the inorganic level from the point of view of the
MOQ DQ/SQ.  DQ is undefined Quantum and SQ is defined 1.  If the meaning can
be elaborated by song, dance, and picture, determines whether the
conceptualization is useful.

SOM conceptualizes evolution as an afterthought.  SOM conceptualizes the
creation of a body/soul by a deity.  The soul has two faculties mind/will..
SOM conceptualizes the creation of everything, perhaps through evolution,
from the Will of an Absolute.  E.g., Bo pointed out that although evolution
to the intellectual level has manifested in Islamic culture, the Taliban are
conceptualizing at the social level for metaphysical reality.  They
conceptualize their formulation for social morality from an appeal to the
will of an all-powerful deity, not from intellectual laws and customs.

imho  Conceptualizing from evolution:  the inorganic level DQ/SQ, DQ
Quantum, is conceptualized as a Big Bang, SQ as 1. The organic level DQ/SQ,
DQ is conceptualized as life, from the inorganic SQ 1.  The social
(emotional) level DQ/SQ, DQ is conceptualized as creator-god, from the
organic SQ life.  The intellectual level DQ/SQ DQ is conceptualized as
Evolution, from the social (emotional) SQ creator-god.

What are the metaphysics of conceptualization? MOQ!  Only from a
metaphysical perspective of defined/undefined can there be the
conceptualization of a DQ/SQ evolution into levels!  Conventional sounds and
gestures are used as signs of the intelligence needed for communication.
Conceptualization of the levels of evolution follows an intelligent design.
Sounds produced by some organic capabilities evolved into intelligible
speech that can be conceptualized as evolution to the social level.

How are metaphysical changes communicated as evolution DQ/SQ?
Communication of an individual¹s conceptualization is obscure and difficult..
Don¹t give up imho is a working tool.

What does it mean that at the inorganic level DQ/SQ self-conceptualization
does not exist, yet can be described mathematically?   Does this in any way
create a rule for logical discourse?   I can¹t use DQ as an integer 0 in a
formula of division. Does this limit the use of logic in a discussion?  imho
evolution is consistent DQ/SQ in 4 or 7 levels?   Evolution to the
Intellectual level does not destroy the inorganic level!  ³I² am thirsty!

Joe



On 5/11/09 10:39 AM, "X Acto" <[email protected]> wrote:

> A must read, I recomend to Both Marsha and especially Bo.
> 
> http://www.public.iastate.edu/~consigny/pirsig.html
> 
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