John to Andre: Now right there that seems an excellent description Phaedrus's classic/romantic split, does it not?
Andre: Hi John, and greetings to you too, Yes, this seems a good description of what Phaedrus was on about, though it was not identified or recognised as the male/ female principle> ( or wass it ? ah, this fucking medication I am on!) John: But this description makes very clear a sort of sexual distinction in human consciousness. Andre: I can follow you at the biological level, the social level but not at the intellectual level John. Plato was operating ( one would imagine a true philosopher as doing) at the intellectual level. (this is irrespective of whether he was aware of these 'levels' or not). John: It was for Plato! He was male. Which is the point you're making I think. I'm not a Greek scholar, but I've read before that there was a strong component of the anti-feminine in Greek culture. Andre: With all respect, this is not an excuse to exonerate Plato. I would be interested in finding out the influences responsible for this 'anti-feminine' streak in Greek culture. John: Our most fundamental Organic pattern of value is the male/female experience and any intellectual system which denigrates the female side of things, throws away one half the human intellectual experience. Andre: I like to believe you John, but to even suggest a 'female' side to organic and inorganic patterns is to commit heresy to some.(even on this Discuss) Also, I am not convinced that at this level the male/female 'split' is an issue. It seems to me it has become an issue only at the social level...not even at the biological level. John: You bring up (for me anyway), some fascinating points I'd never considered before. Andre: Thank you John, I hope that we can help eachother trying to find some satisfying (i.e good) answers which help us and the rest on our way towards.............? Kind regards Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
