Ron: > Nick, > You use the terms "Justice" and "liberty" > as though they stand for objective universal truths. > MoQ rejects objective universal views.
Nick: What do you mean by "objective"? They are subjective cause people are to be willing to minimize conflict. That's what the NAP is all about. They are moral values. I said that in a previous post. Natural rights are conflated moral values due to their universal ability to be applied. But values none-the- less that can be discarded, thrown away, and people can ignore liberty and justice if they want to. Criminals (not you or anybody) prove liberty and justice are not objective, if by objective you mean unchangeability or utopian. I haven't used objective in a long time. Is that what it means? I can't remember. Ron: I mean that to assume that unbias opinions exist. That law is inherent in nature obvious to anyone. Nature is everchanging which means that natural law is everchanging the expereincer is part of experience, everchanging. If ideas of"Justice" and "Liberty" are everchanging they are universally meaningless. They are culturally derived ideals based on the idea of the existence of an objective truth in nature. ________________________________ From: blue-jay maple <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 9:45:23 AM Subject: Re: [MD] NAP -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
