"M K: I am happy you stepped forward to greet me." That's it? You are happy that I stepped forward to greet you? Is my heart not full of love like Platt's? Am I not beautiful in my approach like Marsha? That's it?
Am I not brave and open minded like Ron? You greatly appreciate Gav and say that John is fun and a cool guy to hang out with, but "happy I stepped forward". What the fuck is up with that, Nick? I thought we were lovers. I thought we were soul mates. How many times did I put the lotion in the basket? How many times? All I did and you turn around and give me this cheap shit? You might as well give me the hose again, motherfucker! I am so OUT of here and so are my 12 queer muslim husbands! It's over with! Fuck you very much! ________________________________ From: blue-jay maple <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 6:40:32 PM Subject: [MD] my olive branch effort Everybody, I would like to say that I am feeling more safe with some of you. Ron, you helped me feel safe with your very civil discourse and understanding. We, meaning anybody, can differ on approaches. We can disagreed on government. So be it, but I think it is best to be honest on how events are. Sure some people may tolerate the government and may find safety in how it works. At least I feel a sense of honor with that person who can come out and admit their adherence, but don't try to defend injustice. I know that is difficult and it may seem more my personal opinion for those that tolerate the government. But I have taken liberty to the radical extreme in deduction. At least you know that I am for peace and I would never IPC (initiate physical coercion), so, at least people can surmise that from what I've discussed. I know I believe in liberty very strongly and have reasoned it through to a considered radicalness to some (though I am no more radical than all those now and before that took liberty to such extremes). I can't say I am any better or worse for what I pursue, but I think you can at least perceive that my effort is born of peace (NAP) and that is my effort in life. I don't think that is bad, I think that is a good event to strive for - to minimize conflict. So I offer the olive branch and I know I have shaken the foundation of what some people believe. I am trying and my effort is born of care and fear. Yes fear because of what I perceive and what that means in conclusion, and I have feared what some people have said in this forum. It has frightened me tremendously. I am fragile. I just want peace. I am glad I found some people who have tried to reach out and understand my peaceful intentions instead of some others who I see as very dangerous in their irrational dismissal (Krimel and dmb). Arlo: I highly respect your pursuance. I love how you really feel strongly about something you believe in. You are a very principled person and I can see you don't compromise in what you believe in. I greatly admire that. And I thank you. M K: I am happy you stepped forward to greet me. Platt: I know in your heart you truly want freedom and you fear in great length because you care greatly. Your heart is full of love. I thank you from the bottom of my heart! Marsha: You are a strong woman with unbounding care. You have really been very beautiful in your approach. I thank you. Ron: You are very brave and open-minded. You dived into what many shuttered and scattered from out of fear and extreme caution. I charged in here like a raging buffalo and you met me with a tender heart that helped ease my fear. If you see it from my perspective as I think you, Ron, have been able to. I think you might see my fear and why I have said bluntly that I think other people are dangerous. I think it is mainly a huge shift for people and I did come in here very strongly in what I feel deeply about - peace. Ron in my running fear and thus my preconceptual distrust right off the bat due to how I saw people not understanding me and dismissing the NAP. And since the NAP means peace, then can anybody really question my fear and possible confusion on why would people reject peace? I am a wild horse at times Ron, but you are a good hearted person and I can see trust in your heart through your posts. It helped me settle down amidst the barrage of posts bashing me without trying to have discourse on what I meant. When I say somebody is a criminal I am merely pointing out an example on the intellectual exercise of what they are concluding. It does not mean they want to be a criminal or murderer. I am intellectual showing the boundaries of an innocent person who is trying to minimize conflict and somebody that may not recognize the boundaries of their actions. Ron thank you for being civil. Andre: Your intentions are present, but you seem to not take the time to figure out what somebody else means. This is all an intellectual exercise and I am pointing out the boundaries in human action. For me to say you are an idiot, murderer, and criminal is a cynic move out of distrust cause I didn't see you try to care expect in a few instances. I'm sorry, please don't think that I'm saying anything outside of an intellectual exercise. I am merely pointing out boundaries. gav: I'm am greatly appreciative of you. I think you were one of the first to make an attempt to try to reason with me. You asked questions and saw the questions and answers as an intellectual discourse. The topics of justice, crime, and liberty in any law classroom are difficult for people to handle sometimes. It might shake them up to look into the eyes of what somebody may never have peered into before. But you are well prepared and reasonable. I honor your effort to help bridge the intellectual discourse. I Thank You. Ian: I think you have a difficult time knowing what an intellectual exercise is and what is try about life. You seem beaten like a dog and tired. I wish I could be there in person cause it wouldn't be so bad to talk about these things if we saw each others faces. I really wasn't trying to condemn you. I wasn't doing the run around. I think a tremendous amount of talking past each other happened. I feel sad that the conversation became challenging. It is not everyday that misery is upon our ears. I'm sorry. John: I don't know you much but you seem like a fun person. I am so happy you tried to reason with me too. You seem like a cool guy to hang out with. I really hope I didn't miss anybody else from the discussion. dmb and Krimel are still assholes for what they said. They are gloriously arrogant. They are basket cases of mistrust in my opinion. I feel empathy for them, but I am also very fearful and do not trust them at all. Their lack of care to reason makes me wonder how far they would go if we were actually close by each other physically. So thank you for those that have tried to help me feel comfortable and have taken the time to have a civil discourse. peace Nick -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! 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