"Introspective Observation" Is this just another fancy-shmancy way of saying "know thyself"? Cuz I been getting that a lot from that guy lately. John
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > "Introspective Observation is what we have to rely on first and foremost > and > always." > (W.James) > > > So the James quote, a famous one at that, gets no comment against the Wiki > Behaviorists' dismissal? > > > > Marsha > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of X Acto > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MD] Introspection > > Marsha quotes James: > > Here's a quote I particularly like, "Introspective Observation is what we > have to rely on first and foremost and always." > > Ron: > I looked up the term "introspective" and found some very > interesting comments > from wiki: > > "Behaviorists claimed that introspection was unreliable and that the > subject > matter > of scientific psychology should be strictly operationalized in an objective > and > measurable way. This then led psychology to focus on measurable behavior > rather > than consciousness or sensation.[1] Cognitive psychology accepts the use of > the > scientific method, but often rejects introspection as a valid method of > investigation for this reason, especially concerning the causes of behavior > and choice." > > "On the other hand, introspection can be considered a valid tool for the > development > of scientific hypotheses and theoretical models, in particular in cognitive > sciences > and engineering. In practice, functional (goal-oriented) computational > modeling and > computer simulation design of meta-reasoning and metacognition are closely > connected > with the introspective experiences of researchers and engineers." > > "Introspection was used by German physiologist Wilhelm Wundt in the > experimental > psychology laboratory he had founded in Leipzig in 1879. Wundt believed > that > by > using introspection in his experiments he would gather information into how > the > subjects' minds were working, thus he wanted to examine the mind into its > basic > elements. Wundt did not invent this way of looking into an individual's > mind > > through their experiences; rather, it can date to Socrates. Wundt's > distinctive > contribution was to take this method into the experimental arena and thus > into > the newly formed field of psychology." > > "In Eastern Christianity, some of the concepts critical to addressing the > needs > of man such as sober introspection, called nepsis, are specific to > watchfulness > of the human heart and address the conflicts of the human nous, heart or > mind. > Also noetic understanding can not be circumvented nor satisfied by > rationalizing > or discursive thought (i.e. systemization)." > > Some interesting terms associated with introspection: > > "choice theory" > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice_theory > which looks alot like a rough MoQ > > > a list of cognitive biases we all tend towards > in our static filtering that one should keep in mind > in introspective observation > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
