Dear Marsha --
I think static patterns of value are memory, a rerun, of past value
events/processes brought into mind by the previous moment.
The static patterns of value are the Universe (self and other) as
constructed and known, and are mistaken for a separate physical universe.
Value is neither "past" nor "present", although our finite experience of it
is awareness in time.
Experiencing and learning is a process, and like all processes our existence
is dynamic.
(Sorry to have to disagree with RMP, but his "static pattern" concept
doesn't support evolution or the experiential nature of existence.)
We live in a space/time world of appearances. The phenomena we experience
are all the result of change and difference which frames the universe. The
only truly "static" entity in reality is the uncreated source, and that we
can only hypothesize about.
Essentially yours,
Ham
[Marsha adds]:
Maybe it would be better to say mind/consciousness, and that
sets up a nice relationship. Mind/consciousness cannot exist
without patterns, and patterns cannot exist without mind/consciousness.
Ham:
No, Marsha. "Mind/consciousness" is redundant. The mind IS conscious
awareness. Let's not get confused about proprietary (subjective)
awareness.
But let's not dismiss it, as Pirsig did..
Marsha:
Quality inspires conscious awareness.
[Marsha adds something from Ant's PhD]:
As Pirsig rejects both mind-substance (i.e. the 'ghost') and
matter-substance (i.e. the 'machine') oriented ontologies of the world,
he employs one underpinned by value based events, Quality is
considered the source of subjects and objects and can be regarded
as a Dynamic event (1995a, p.12); an 'event at which the subject
becomes aware of the object.' (ZMM, 1974a, p.239)
These Quality events (or processes), therefore, obtain the status as
the fundamental unit or 'primitives' of the universe and provide
a unity between the observer and the observed; knowing mind and
object.
(A Critical Analysis of Robert Pirsig's Metaphysics of Quality,2005,Watts,
p.133)
Ham:
If you can comprehend all that, you're a better philosophologist than I
am.
Marsha:
The above statement from Ant's PhD was a response to a Merleau-Ponty quote
and it was probably unfair of me to isolate it from its context, but the
important point is that RMP has designated "Quality events (or processes)"
as the basis of the Universe (reality) which is then conceptually
constructed (mistakenly) as independent self and objects.
Marsha
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