Hi John --


I'm glad you have a prior interest in Lanza, as I find this new
development in philosophy very relevant to the MoQ and
the Perennial...

Well one way to look at it, in a general upper room sort of view,
is that since "brain" and "nervous system" are themselves ordered
parts of the cosmos they observe, then the discrepancy isn't as
big as we "thought".

If there is a "discrepancy" in our reality paradigm, it isn't a matter of whether our thinking is based on biology or physics, since it's obvious (as Lanza et al demonstrate) that empirical evidence does not provide the answers. Yet it appears that the Biocentrists are unwilling to let go of the Science that has failed them and to acknowledge Metaphysics as a more likely source for Truth.

Thanks for the link to the abridged Lanza/Berman thesis. I've reviewed the material and was disappointed to find it a chronology of scientific thinking rather than an original ontology. Biocentrism at this juncture is obviously an idea in search of a proper metaphysical foundation. Inasmuch as Biology is the Science of Life, one can see why the biophysicist would assume that the 'magic elixer' lies in a marriage of biology and physics. But the authors raise more questions than they answer. While it is one thing to say that the universe was designed to support life, it's quite another to conclude that life created the universe. This essay seems to be asserting both. It reminds me of Donald Hoffman's theory that Consciousness is the ultimate reality.

I've made my own abridgement of what I consider the most pertinent statements ...

"A more accurate understanding of the world requires that we consider it biologically centered. It's a simple but amazing concept that Biocentrism attempts to clarify: Life creates the universe, instead of the other way around. Understanding this more fully yields answers to several long-held puzzles. This new model - combining physics and biology instead of keeping them separate, and putting observers firmly into the equation - is called biocentrism.

"Undeniably it is the biological creature that makes the observations and creates the theories. The world appears to be designed for life, not just at the microscope scale of the atom, but at the level of the universe itself. Scientists have discovered that the universe has a long list of traits that make it appear as if everything it contains - from atoms to stars - was tailor-made just for us. ... Tweak any of them and you never existed. Many are calling this revelation the "Goldilocks Principle," because the cosmos is not "too this" or "too that," but rather "just right" for life.

"In biocentrism, space and time are forms of animal understanding - period. They are tools of the mind, and thus do not exist as external objects independent of life. Though still in its infancy, few doubt that this century, in which computer power and capabilities keep expanding geometrically, will eventually bring researchers to confront the problem in a serious way. A 'thinking device' will need the same kind of algorithms for employing time and developing a sense of space that we enjoy. ... Accepting space and time as forms of animal sense perception (as biologic), rather than as external physical objects, offers a new way of understanding everything from the microworld (for instance, the reason for Heisenberg's uncertainty principle and the two-hole experiment) to the forces, constants, and laws that shape the universe."

But I think biocentrism points to a deeper meaning than life creating the
cosmos or the cosmos creating life.  I think it demonstrates empirically
grounded values revealed in resonant energies responsible for both.
Perhaps leading to an "intelligent design" permutation of some stripe.
But what appeals to me the most is that ultimately Nature makes the
most sense as our ultimate source of value.

No intelligent person can deny that the universe is "intelligently" designed. The question that needs to be answered is: Does this design manifest the intelligence of the observer, the universe itself, or a transcendent Creator?

"Nature" is only man's name for Existence and its physical, biological, and psychical properties. But is the "nature" of man the "nature" of the universe? Lanza, the biologist, is persuaded that it is. Carl, the logical analyst, believes that Nature makes the most sense as our ultimate source of value. Pirsig, the philosopher, believes that Value is the primary empirical reality. Priday, the essentialist, believes that Nature represents our valuistic sense of an ultimate source.

Which of us has it right?

Thanks again, John
Ham


I agree with the epistemology; I just don't see how it centers on biology.
If you can explain the conscious precepts-to-biology connection, I might
join in your exploration of Biocentrism.

Thanks, John,
--Ham

Well follow the link and let the author explain it best in his own terms.
Only Hegel was a true Hegelian.  I just know this, there has been more
hard factual research linking mind and matter in the last decade, than
philosophy has had time to catch up with.

imvho
John

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