hiya charybdis, --- > I agree with your point that women > often put themselves in the position of > favoring "emotionally retarded men." > First, a caveat to what you said: I simply cannot > accept that women are > somehow more spiritually pure than men.
gav: didn't say that. said that they were more yin. I think women > are *socialized* to > uphold certain aspects of culturally constructed > femininity, which includes > being gentle, passive, kind, helpful, and so on. > > However, the societally constructed stereotype of woman is > not the true > heart of woman. A woman is just as capable of having > darkness in her heart > or emotional detachment, same as any man. Abuse by a > woman is rare, but > those who have experienced it can tell you that a female > sociopath is no > different than a male one. again i think you are missing me. in this country there are no shortage of middle aged bitter man-hating women...the irony is that they are more like men themselves. I also doubt whether there > is a true gender > difference in the numbers of men and women who manifest > this disorder. I > simply think sociopathy is revealed in men more than it is > in women because > sociopathic traits are encouraged in men and discouraged in > women, and men > simply have more physical freedom to carry out violent > acts, for they are > the strongest. > > Back to the topic of the mate choices of women: we are > socialized to accept > that men are the emotionally stunted ones (and being > emotionally stunted is > not far from emotional death, so it is somewhere on the > spectrum of > sociopathic tendencies), the unthinkingly violent ones, the > ones who should > show anger before they show pain. Numerous stories > show it as the woman's > role to accept the shortcomings of her mate, because there > aren't any truly > good men, and she has to settle. Even if these > stories are meant to show > the humorousness of this situation, it seems to be the case > that the more > something is talked about, the more it occurs in > reality. Women accept this > as their plight, even if they think it is wrong. > > What can be done about it? The most direct solution > is to change how men > and women are socialized. maybe. i would say transcend your socialisation and become your self. and that is a gender neutral goal. > > Regards, > > Charybdis cheers gav > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM, gav <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > marsha's post on logos triggered something that came > up last night in conv > > with mum and dad, and which is basically the same idea > as aristophanes' > > lysistrata. > > > > culpability for the horrors of the last few hundred > years or so falls at > > the feet of men, directly. however women are not > absolved here; indirectly > > they too have perpetuated the situation we are seeing > reach lemming stage > > now. > > > > woman is naturally more attuned to the earth, to > nature: she is more yin, > > more receptive. man is relatively less attuned and > more prone to analytic > > extremes, which, divorced from the moderation of > natural intuition - > > feelings - can become pathological, both individually > and societally. > > but as bill hicks succintly put it, women should 'fuck > artists'. or as > > anais puts it, more delicately, she should favour the > sensitive man. > > > > too many women have fucked themselves and helped fuck > the planet by > > marrying and having children with mentally > ill/emotionally retarded males. > > too many women have chosen fear (fear of being without > financial support) > > over love (following their heart over their head). > > > > but hey its a salutary lesson. women are now > recaliming their role as > > guardians of the earth and humanity; they are becoming > strong again. they > > need to support *one another*: a true > sisterhood, not a feminist > > pseaudomasculine reactive stance: a wisdom tradition > reclaimed. > > > > remember it was men that slaughtered millions of you > in the name of god and > > jesus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________________ > > Find local businesses and services in your area with > Yahoo!7 Local. > > Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > __________________________________________________________________________________ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
