On Aug 17, 2009, at 1:26 AM, MarshaV wrote:



Steve,

Once again, what is your definition of relativism?


Marsha

Hi Marsha,

I would like to see the term dropped from our vocabulary in part because it is so unclear what anybody means by the term and part because I'd like to see SOM, the philosophical system on which the term is based, dropped altogether. In every day usage, it just seems to be a catch-all term for anyone a conservative disagrees with.

In philosophy, my take is that relativism-absolutism is just another version of subjective-objective. It is the same question as asking if the quality is in the subject or the object. The claim that truth and morality are just subjective (relativism) is self-defeating because that claim itself then must be viewed as just subjective and needn't be taken seriously. So I don't think anyone should want to call herself a "relativist" because such a person will not be taken to even believe herself when she calls herself that.

In the MOQ, however, absolutism-relativism is one of those philosophical platypi that get dissolved to the point where you wonder why you even asked the question to begin with. Are morals cultural constructs? Of course they are, but so are atoms and mathematics. It doesn't mean that there aren't true and false things to be said about them. There is no problem for moral claims as well as factual claims to be thought of as having truth-value, so the MOQ denies relativism. And we can make such claims without imagining such essences as Natural Law or The Moral Law for such claims to try to conform to, so the MOQ also denies absolutism.

Best,
Steve
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