Hi Matt, No fiat, I think I said "seems", (and with a question mark, too ?)
Anyway, seemingly spurious in the context of what I had just summarized before that statement. Ie how the views of relativism and absolutism affect the use of the MoQ. Clearly where your subject is Rorty, game on. Perhaps I should rephrase my point as a question - why is the debate about Rorty's view of pragmatism relevant to recognizing that the MoQ is neither absolutist, nor relativist (which appeared to have been agreed) ? Regards Ian On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Matt Kundert<[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > Ian said: > I see violent agreement on the middle ground that MoQ > provides. Any need to "attack" (or defend) Rorty just > seems spurious ? > > Matt: > I'm sorry, Ian, while on the one hand your constant, > long-standing effort to find middle ground and the like is > commendable, on the other hand, it is starting to sound > edgy and nullifying. As if you're going to start arguing that > people should stop arguing. > > There's certainly a balancing act in all this (arguments, > debates, conversations, etc.), but agreements, or what > have you, can only be reached _through_ the conversations > being had by motivated participants, not by fiat from > someone that wants the conversations to stop. > > In other words, "spurious" is not the word you're looking for. > You seem to have floated so high into the ether that > everything's turned grey. _That's_ relativism. Relativism is > pure Objectivism, pure Omniscience, just as the Blue Dude in > Watchmen displayed so well. The more he knew, the less > humanity he had. > > There's nothing _spurious_ about attacking or defending Rorty, > or any other set of opinions (unless, of course, one's take a > God/Buddha's-eye view of the world)--there are only good and > bad attacks or defenses, good or bad opinions. > > Matt > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. > http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
