Matt, Ron, Steve, John, Marsha, et al ... Thanks for that Matt. Incidentally, Ron conlcuded "MoQ does .... provide a universal context in which truth may be understood contextually."
I usually say universal framework ... so that is OK by me. As a pragmatist, I might say truth-value rather than truth, but simply to emphasise that we are talking about the significance & value (explanation & justification) to current & future decisions and actions, rather than any disembodied absolute truth in itself, out of all context. I see no doubt in what is being agreed there. That is, I'm not sure there is much rhetorical value in debating abolutism and relativism there. Since that MoQ is neither and both. As a framework it is "universal" - everywhere and nowhere - it is no-where, but it provides "context" everywhere. And the framework provides that understanding of the relationships between intellectual, social, biological and physical patterns, hierarchical in an evolutionary sense only. Ditto - I see little doubt here too. I can see lots of value in debating what Rorty brings to the party ... and all the lingusitic "traps" ... as we interminably debate the "pure experience" - the ineffable, indefinable empirical quality, that explains how all those patterns arise (arose historically and continue to do so as "now" moves forward) from experience. Since by definition this quality of pure experience cannot be defined - understanding all the different possible views tied up in the different uses of language here is interesting - and useful because it adds to the collage of thoughts peppered around the - indefinable - root concept of quality. At the risk of sounding (even more) condescending ... but I still want to say ... I sincerely hope DMB feels the love in John's "metaphysics is not for sissies" taunt. I am actually pleased Dave has chosen to take a break - the wisdom to stop running up that hill to the high-country - take a break to focus on other immediate priorities and then to regroup / re-assess / reflect. I'm really interested to hear what he has to say, when he returns, as he will (as you did Matt). Regards Ian Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
