Steve, I've spent the afternoon with a five-year-old little boy who has cherubic cheeks and an expansive amount of energy. His first day of kindergarten is tomorrow. I am quite tired and will need to sleep before considering your uncomfortable post.
Marsha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Peterson Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MD] SOL Hi Marsha, You mentioned that the only opinion you cared about with regard to Bo's SOL interpretation is RMP's. In fact, as Bo well knows, Pirsig did "rule" on the issue and not at all favorably to Bo's interpretation. The following is from Lila's Child: Bodvar: Gentlemen! I must hasten to say that rationality wasnt meant to replace static patterns of intellect as the official name in the MOQ. The reason for introducing the term stems from a thread in the early days of TLS when the evasiveness of this value dimension dawned upon us. At first it was pinned down as thinking, mental activity, consciousness, mind for short, but this really screws things up. The MOQ rejects mind/matter as the fundamental division of reality so defining intellect as mind means lapsing back to the SOM. I long stuck to Symbolic Language (and still think its a good definition), but someone caught the idea that intellect can be seen as rational thinking. Long before the Lila Squad days, it had puzzled me greatly that Subject/Object metaphysics maybe viewed as the intellectual level of MOQ! I even raised the question in a letter to Pirsig, but he did not respond. [88] Pirsig responded with this annotation: 88. I dont remember not responding, so it must have been an oversight. I dont think the subject-object level is identical with intellect. Intellect is simply thinking, and one can think without involving the subject-object relationship. Computer language is not primarily structured into subjects and objects. Algebra has no subjects and objects. Case closed? Of course Bo is welcome to come up with his own philosophy, but a subject/object level is clearly not what Pirsig means by the intellectual level in his MOQ. What do you think? Best, Steve Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
