Marsha to Ham and Andre: I agree that meditation can lead to experiences of Ultimate Reality (DQ), and a few minute sip of such an experience can deeply alter the context of all experience.
Andre: Hi Marsha, yes, I agree and I am intrigued (and perhaps slightly worried as well) by the 'Still Zen after All These Years' interview wherein Pirsig appears to suggest that to really understand Lila one needs to have gone through an 'enlightenment' experience (a la ZMM)...the 180 Zen and 360 Zen...after enlightenment ' and the world is exactly as it was when you left it' (but you are changed of course). What do you think? Andre, the non-enlightened one Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
