[Khaled] As the saying goes, you can lead the horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Or to quote from the movie k-pax ---------------------------------------------- Mark( the psychiatrist): So, what about societal structure? Government? Prot ( the Alien/Patient): No, there is no need for one. Mark: Well, you have no laws? Prot: No laws. No lawyers. Mark: How do you know right from wrong? Prot: Every being in the universe knows right form wrong, Mark. Mark: But what if someone did do something wrong? Committed murder? or a rape? How would you punish them. Prot: Let me tell you something mark, you humans, most of you subscribe to this policy of 'an eye for an eye'. 'a life for a life' which is known throughout the universe for its stupidity. Even Your Buddha and your Christ had quiet a different vision, but nobody paid much attention to them. Not even the Buddhist or the Christians. You humans, sometimes it's hard to imagine how you have made it this far. -------------------------------------- here is the clip on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U-tmgC0GYs So as you can see Ron, Quality, the Good, is not taught, but merely pointed out, like the green flash of the sunset. What you make of it is all up to you. I can teach you how to plow a field, bake bread, hone a knife. On the other hand Quality is there, I can point it out but it's up to you to become more attune to it. My 2 cents Khaled [Ron] > The basis of the discussion in Plato's Protagoras. > Can Quality be taught? > > Protagoras thought it could be taught, Socrates questioned this. > Pirsig original Bozeman paper on the subject, thought it could be > taught. I wonder, after two books and much thought, would he > conclude the same? > Can virtue be taught? > > Is it a question of developing a desire for honesty? > > What would Robert say? > > Bob, have you taught us Quality? > > -Ron > ____________________________________________________________ Manufacturer-Direct Hardwood Floors Never pay retail again. Wholesale prices on all hardwood floors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=4mcXIkSs_L60O4nzfDjS9QAAJ1BoN5MIA846iJgpKACKCvEMAAQAAAAFAAAAAFAisT4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANldAAAAAA= Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
