Hey, Andre --
It seems to me that we are attributing meaning to some concepts
which may not be very helpful. I think we need to get away from
the notion that the idea of 'preference' automatically implies
(religious??)
notion of 'good' or 'goodness'. ...
To turn to some of your examples Ham: floods (or earthquakes)
haven't you noticed the bonding and binding power of these events
on people? (after lots of static patterns have fallen away). Noticed the
scientific community ready with their accumulated data to improve
understanding in an effort at prediction/ prevention? The dealing with
the devastation and the dealing with the re-building? ...
And let's not forget the dominant SOM thinking in this. The dualistic
us vs them, the assigning of blame/fault (usually to the victims), the
deserve not deserve attitude, the colour/ politics, enemy/ally
notions. These dualisms fall away when one is (in-) directly involved
in such calamities. The static patterns do not exist or are suspended.
Later it is 'business as usual...back to the static (trusted)
patterns.
Oh yes, let's praise disaster and evil for their "bonding power" which
brings us all together. How clever of Nature to provide these
inconveniences to cleanse our souls and moralize our behavior! Seriously,
do you really believe this is the physical universe "guiding us" to
betterness?
The MoQ disintegrates these divisions into patterns of morality
according to evolutionary 'progress'. The secret lies in DQ/SQ. And
this is quite 'complete' (to use to positive of your expression
above).
If the "patterns of morality" are programmed into evolution, where is
individual freedom in your paradigm? You say "the secret lies in DQ/SQ."
(It's certainly a secret to me.) There's nothing "static" about existence,
and there's no reason to assume that Quality (Value) is "dynamic" In fact,
there's no logic I'm aware of that supports Quality independently of man's
realization or judgment.
And I would suggest Ham that the MoQ is a hell of a good thought
and some on this discuss have found it.
I'm happy for you that you've discovered Pirig's thesis to be the source of
such profound thought.
As for myself, I shall continue to enjoy the Freedom of individual
subjectivity which the MoQ does not support but which existence does.
Best wishes,
Ham
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