Steve, Steve: > > > The way out of the appearance-reality platypus is not to find the > universe's secret language (MOQese), but to deny that language is all > about representing reality.
Good point. I like that. It doesn't fail to accurately represent > reality as the SOMist claims because it doesn't represent at all. > Well I think it represents something - it represents my best description of my reality. Or your best description of your reality, depending... > Language is instead a tool for coping with reality. Language is a tool for coping with people. Lots of animals and some humans cope with reality just fine without having anything to do with language. A big part of our human reality is other humans, so sometimes it seems like all of reality, but its not. > and it can't take us closer to or > further from reality any more than a hammer could. I disagree on many levels. The easiest way to describe my disagreement is when my reality is conceptual - the LAW of gravity, for instance. It's a piece of symbolic reasoning that can be completely and thoroughly encapsulated by the human mind, transmitted cleanly and in its pattern - conceived as a piece of reality itself - is only transmittable through language. How can you then say that language can't get us any closer to the reality of the law of gravity? Or if your hunting buddy says go over there and shoot a deer, then you eat. Language has brought you closer to the reality of a full stomach. And there ain't nothing more real than that. The Real John, but only through words. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
