Good enough Ian, Hopefully as events unfold it will get even more interesting.
Take Care, John On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Ian Glendinning <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi John, > > Being in business (for my sins) I am at that > end-of-year-reports&deadlines / and next-year-planning panic that > regularly fills December, but whilst I am not responding to your mails > recently, I am nevertheless noting them (with little stars) so that I > can come back and do them justice :-) Interesting stuff. > > Ian > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:52 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > > So I went to a meeting on Sunday, and though it was small, it went well. > I > > obtained enough contact info to begin communicating my vision. Here is > what > > I said: > > > > ----------- > > > > > > Ho one and all, > > > > My name is John Carl. I have just recently (last year) learned of DQ > > University, and only very recently become involved - the last two meeting > of > > the minds, held in Davis. > > > > I would like to share my thoughts. I was invited to share my thoughts > and > > goals with the small group that met yesterday, Rudy who was leading the > > meeting at the time, offered me th opportunity, which I deferred till I > > could hear what others had to say. That seemed right to me others who > have > > been struggling long. > > > > I never did get a chance to speak myself, and I promised those there that > I > > would say what I have to say in e-mail, which is good for me because I > don't > > get as flustered or confused when I can pause and think while I > communicate. > > So this is a good way for me. > > > > Another good thing, is that every single person who did share, said for > me > > what was on my heart to say anyway. Things I thought were important to > > share, you already know and are saying yourself. Education of the young. > > Preservation of the old ways. Learning how to adapt to the modern world > > and be successful in it, without losing one's heritage and traditions. > > Permaculture. Education. Healing. > > > > These things which are so needed in the world today, and which we have an > > opportunity to create and share, are exactly the things which I heard > others > > say they want. And even more; though it might seem ridiculous, I found a > > lot of hope. Others besides me believe two important things: there is > > good and it is attainable. > > > > Ho indeed. > > > > Of what was shared yesterday, my closest agreement was with what Alapay > > described. Whatever Spirit has led her thinking has led mine as well. > > Swales. Permaculture techniques and in-ground housing with solar > > orientation are long-standing passionate interests of mine. I'm ready to > > begin digging immediately. I have a shovel. I know how to use it. > > > > I also have a plan. Jim Rose, who spoke before Alapay, said what we need > is > > "the most basic structure". That phrase stuck in my brain and if I'd had > a > > chance to speak before the group, I was going to write that down on the > big > > chalkboard at the front of the room. So picture those words in your > > imagination. Then picture me drawing a big circle under those words. > > > > A circle is the most basic structure. My goal for DQU is that we create > a > > circle, near the center of the property, circle of 144 acres. Beyond > this > > circle we create a ring and divide this ring into twelve sections. The > goal > > of this circle is to create a protected space where the old ways reign. > > Inside this circle, none of the white man's ways are allowed. No > cameras, > > no twinkies, no radio, no tv and no anthropologists. I call this > circle, > > the center of the world and the only one allowed in the center are those > > willing to recreate the old ways and preserve them. My idea is that to > > enter the center, you must be willing to commit to living for a year > without > > recourse to modern civilization and its friendly amenities. The only > > support for those in the center comes from their tribal support system > > living in the surrounding ring. And before you can enter the center, you > > have to spend an entire year living in the outer ring, learning and > > practicing the old ways of sustenance before you go in. > > > > After successfully completing this year, a person achieves the status of > an > > advanced degree from DQU and is free to move in and out of the center, > > bringing wisdom gained into the outer rings where the old ways meld with > > modern life in new and creative ways. The outer rings contain the > colleges > > of training where accreditation and such is permitted, but the center is > not > > subject to judgement by modern accreditation committees. > > > > The other main feature I see as necessary, is the cooperation of 12 > tribes > > to populate this ring around the center. The tribes recreate their > unique > > cultural history here, support the center and grow outwards into distinct > > colleges of learning. Before the 12 can be gathered, the four roots must > > form, the southern, eastern, western and northern tribes, each with their > > specialty which makes DQU a valuable place to learn indigenous > > permaculture/architecture, Natural healing and health care, education > with > > childcare and philosophy, communications and security. > > > > These skills are valuable enough that we can attract those who want to > learn > > how to live in harmony on the earth, without regard to accreditation. We > > need this structure to start. Later we would hope to gain accreditation, > > but we need to form the program before there is anything to be judged > > accreditation-worthy. > > > > The main feature of my goal for DQU is that we can begin immediately. We > > can start by marking the boundaries and inviting the key tribes to join > our > > efforts. The other feature is that this cooperation of the tribes, > northern > > and southern, helps maintain tribal identity. Instead of a tribe being > > stuck off in a reservation by itself, it is standing side by side with > other > > tribes to contrast and compare and compete (in friendly creative ways) > and > > mutually support the goals of all. > > > > There is more, of course. But that is the heart of my vision for DQU and > I > > thank you all for being involved and sharing your ideas and hopefully > many > > people will find hope in our phoenix-like arising. > > > > May the land be populated with human beings. > > > > John Carl > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
