Bodvar to Andre:
Humans were still created in God's image ...etc, but as social impact
faded, the human organism is nothing special except for the alleged
"self-consciousness".
Andre:
Hi Bodvar, you say 'as social impact faded...' can I then add: as the
intellectual level emerged more prominently from the social level,
self consciousness ( i.e. as a SOM derivative emphasising the Self
(!)) became more dominant?
You continue:
Life is the second static level in MOQ's hierarchy, perhaps the most
self-evident one, no obfuscators have managed to problematize it.
That it is a moral step out of the inorganic level goes without saying.
And that it only is valid within the MOQ is just as plain.
Andre:
Can I string some things together here, with your input, and suggest
that what follows then is that Quality has inorganic PoV's which
support organic PoV's ('life'), it is the emergence at the social
level that 'life' becomes 'transformed' into 'consciousness' and that,
at the intellectual level, which emerged from the social PoV's 'life'
becomes self-consciousness?
Bodvar, is this what you are saying?
My take on this would then be to suggest that Quality is unpatterned
consciousness (morality), the unpatterned aesthetic continuum, and
that all patterned i.e.static expressions of this consciousness are
experienced as 'self' consciousness because still dominated by SOM.
( Doesn't Pirsig say somewhere (in the LC I think, that 'awareness'
and 'consciousness' are better to be avoided and simply be 'reduced'
to an intellectual PoV?).
If this is so, it appears to reinforce your SOL thesis.
Anyway, thank you Bodvar...for what it is worth.
Kind regards
Andre
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