I think? I think subjects exist, but only objectively.
I think objects exist, but only subjectively. I think both exist, but only in terms of each other. And nowhere can you draw a line between the two. And anywhere you want, you can draw the line between the two. And I think that's saying the same thing you said, only different. On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been thinking in terms of value for some years now. There are no > subjects and objects. They're only a convenient fiction, something > we're taught to believe our whole life. This teaching runs very > deep... just look at the energy Bo has expended over the years > perpetuating that belief through his every post. > > Thinking in terms of subjects and objects is like believing in Santa > Claus. It's true that Santa Claus exists. No one can deny it. And it's > the same with subjects and objects. They exist. Yet, like Santa Claus, > they exist as a convenient fiction. Believe in them if you will... it > does no harm. Arguing about subjects and objects is like arguing over > the number of points on Santa's reindeer's antlers. > > There are no objects, no things, in the world we call reality... there > are no subjects, no individuals; there is no community; there is > nothing of permanence. The world is composed of value... patterns of > value... all the way down. > > This is very profound. > > The world is an idea. And as such, we shape the world just by > thinking. Go ahead. Try it. Believe as most people do that the world > is composed of subjects and objects. Rail against the inequity. > Despise the corporations. The world is monolithic, imposing, > constructed of objects that are hard and unmoving. > > Try believing now that the world is composed of value. The world is an > idea. It is like plastic... as soft and as pliable as your thoughts... > take it and mold it any way you want. All you have to do is believe - > it will happen without effort, without even trying. As the doors of > subjects and objects disappear, opportunities will present themselves > unasked for. The world will bend to your will. > > What do you think? > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
