Steve to Andre: I think the mythos is best associated with social patterns.
Krimel to Andre: Both mythos and logos are purely parts of the intellectual level. Andre: Hi Steve, Krimel. Thank you both for taking the time to respond to my post. I do not intend, by highlighting these 2 views above that there is no agreement between the 2 points of view. Can I suggest that, keeping the Pirsig quote Steve mentioned ( about the cave man... social patterns, rituals...from these may emerge intellectual patterns) in mind... that those parts of the mythos handed down to us, either in written,spoken or other artistic form 'made it' into the intellectual level? [Krimel] Ideas that are preserved, however they are preserve: that is the intellectual LEVEL. Look at those cave paintings, for example. At the time of their painting, the artist and his contemporaries shared an understanding of what they were painting and why. They could talk about whatever that was and they painted pictures to illustrate their points to one another. That was their intellectual level. Not just a few cave paintings but the shared understanding of the people who created those paintings. All that survives of those people's intellectual level is painted on the rock wall. The rest is lost, or forgotten if you will. The intellectual level is made up of ideas and what differs between the intellectual level represented in cave painting and the intellectual level today is mainly a matter of quantity and technological enhancements that make ideas static and less like to be forgotten, things like writing, the printing press, film, and the digital revolution. The _level_ consists not in the use of symbols but in the symbols themselves. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
