Listen without the video. It's Donna Summer does Carole King. Very good stuff - especially if you remember Disco with some fondness (as I do). Hear that synthesizer?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MarshaV Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MD] Avatars, SOM and me Mother Earth rocks! On Jan 10, 2010, at 1:53 PM, John Carl wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPtltbBH6cg&feature=related > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:09 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> Hmmmmmmmmmm. >> >> This morning the flutter was 6.5 on the Richter scale. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 10, 2010, at 1:02 PM, John Carl wrote: >> >>> Marsha, >>> >>> The child is the father of the man, and thus perhaps, his master as well. >>> In that case, your question is especially relevant; Is there a >> separation? >>> >>> We shall see! >>> >>> we are >>> >>> momentary in nature, >>> >>> but monumental in a moment, >>> >>> creating ripples in the >>> >>> earthen vibrations >>> >>> that flutter through >>> >>> empty space, >>> >>> organizing a rhythmic clutter into human art. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:02 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 10, 2010, at 5:17 AM, John Carl wrote: >>>> >>>>> You had to suffer shipwreck though your own efforts before you were >> ready >>>> to >>>>> seize the lifebelt he threw you.... The Master knows you and each of >> his >>>>> pupils much better than we know ourselves. He reads in the souls of >> his >>>>> pupils more than they care to admit. >>>>> >>>>> Eugen Herrigel, Zen and the Art of Archery >>>> >>>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Is there a separation between master and student? >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So I was thinking the other day, about writing. My brother in law >> wrote >>>> a >>>>> book about when he and Lu were kids growing up in Africa and he used a >>>>> literary device, I think it's called the "second person objective" or >>>>> something like that. It went something like this: >>>>> >>>>> You walk down the hall to get a glass of water, you see that there is a >>>> need >>>>> for another log on the fire and the cat needs to come in, so you set >> down >>>>> your glass and open the woodstove... >>>>> >>>>> I guess it could be interesting if done really well, but coming from >> pure >>>>> narcissism it's just real annoying. It flows from the assumption that >>>>> everybody else would see things the way I see them, naturally. >>>>> >>>>> But then, he's annoying like that so I guess it makes sense that his >>>> writing >>>>> would be too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Now, Pirsig, on the other hand, writes about himself in the third >> person, >>>>> while narrating from the first person: I used to know this guy, I knew >>>> him >>>>> really well. He's gone now, but not forgotten for he turned into me. >>>>> >>>>> See, the "me" that is in the past is just as much an entity separate >> from >>>>> who I am now, than any other person I've read about in history books. >>>> But >>>>> we don't think like that. We should, but we don't. But writing that >> way >>>>> sort of forces you to confront the real situation as it is, and to an >>>>> extent, by playing with the definitions of self, frees you from the >>>>> ego-attachment to your old self. >>>>> >>>>> And really, when I'm writing about the guy I used to be, why should I >> do >>>> him >>>>> any favors? He's certainly never done me any. If he had any >>>> consideration >>>>> for me, he'd have dieted and exercized more and taken better care of >> his >>>>> body so that when it came time for me to use it, I'd be in real good >>>> shape. >>>>> >>>>> On the other hand, I can't criticize him too hard because if I was in >> his >>>>> position, I'd probably have done the same thing. In fact, that's what >>>>> happened. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, I wonder if any of you literary types are familiar with this >>>>> technique and know what it's called. Lots of writers have referred to >>>> their >>>>> past in the third person, but not from the ongoing narration of the >> first >>>>> person. Pirsig did it because his past person was separated from his >>>>> present person by electroshock therapy, but it doesn't take anything >> that >>>>> dramatic to realize the separation. All it takes is a realization of >> a >>>>> momentary separation between him and me. >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Shoot for the moon. 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