[Bo] I'm not that easily knocked of my perch. In the MOQ "thinking " is not split along intellect's material/mental, but is simply INTELLIGENCE. The biological "computer-like" facility the levels in turn have feed their "programs" into.
[Krimel] "Intelligence" is a term with many meanings. Intelligence tests seem to measure math and verbal skills and predict success in school. Howard Gardner suggests that there are at least six other kinds of intelligence that we would do well to consider, including, social intelligence, athletic intelligence and musical intelligence. From an MoQ perspective, we are less concerned with intelligence (however one defines it) than with patterns of intelligence. [Bo] After the biological stage when the neural system transcended the "read only" (instinct) stage and entered into the "read and write" stage, intelligence was in biology's service for aeons. Then the social level used it for its own purpose and now it is the intellectual level that "thinks" it is thinking itself, but the MOQ has started to demand "computer time" more and more. Thus to say that "thinking" is analog or digital does not mean much (I made a foray into the intellectual (SOM) realm but soon saw the catch) we may look at a digital watch and tell the time. or the position of the sun and "time" emerges. [Krimel] I have long supported the use of information systems metaphors to aid in the understanding of how the "mind" works. But this is the first time I have heard them used so badly and with so little foundation. It's like you are writing them on slips of papers, shaking them up in a box and pulling them out one at a time with your eyes closed. There is precious little about the human nervous system or for that matter the rest of our physiology that is "read only". We are dynamic interactive systems and the one thing we do, like all living things, is interact with and adapt to the world around us. Even our immune systems can "learn" through classical conditioning. If you wear tight shoes, your skin will learn from in and form blisters and/or callouses. [Bo] I guess we agree here, "thinking" or "intelligence" (whatever it's scientific workings are seen from intellect's objective p.o.v.) was once solely in biology's service (still is for the creatures at that level) Then society grew on top of biology and took over intelligence (that now was the human brain's power) and thinking was now applied to the social- value-perceived reality - still is for those who have the "social" outlook. Then - as mentioned - intellect hijacked intelligence and "thinking" became synonymous with "intellect", hence the blind ally you and many of this site are in. [Krimel] Your use of anthropomorphic language as always, is misleading and misguided. You make it sound like "biology" is running an employment service and "intellectual" patterns have to fill out job applications with non-compete clauses to get hired. Then you have "thug life" intellect car-jackings in blind alleyways... [Bo] Intellect is the highest and best level so I admire your knowledge about the material workings of the brain, but the MOQ has still to to occupy YOUR intelligence.. [Krimel] If by this you mean I haven't been sucked into being "S.hit O.utta L.uck" yet, don't hold your breath. By the way, despite your alleged "foray," nothing you say here suggests you have the faintest idea of the meanings or distinctions between the terms digital and analog. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
