[Mark] 
Freedom implies chance, for me means that for freedom to exist, chance must 
exist.  This is why I said that chance is the essence of freedom.  Is this 
wrong? 

[Arlo] 
It adds an unnecessary word, "essence". Neither "chance" nor "freedom" is the 
"essence" of the other, they are equivalent terms, or at the very least 
descriptors of the same "thing".
[Mark]
The way I would view this is that pure chance in everything implies no freedom 
of choice.
Freedom implies a will that is chanceless.  I was thinking of the two sides of 
a coin metaphor,
but that probably wouldn't work.  Its more like picking the song out of all the 
noise.




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