Not only THAT, but if Bo actually read the work for which namesake he labors so doggedly on, Aristotles metaphysics, he might just find that he too, Aristotle, makes the same observation. But that would require Bodvar to take the time to read. But then he'd be forced to realize that his whole arguement is based on one big misunderstanding.
In his defense, one may use a certain broad general understanding of his point of view within a broad cultural context, but I would place more blame with the Pythagorians for what he refers to as SOM. As for his Quest...immortal granduer..self appointed sainthood.. you know the usual ----- Original Message ---- From: John Carl <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 1:31:41 PM Subject: [MD] Bo's quest Bo, You asked to provide one example of a philosophy that refutes SOM before Pirsig. Lot's of philsopher's on this forum have spluttered and protested you on this issue before, but you are still not satisfied. I don't see how the babbling idiocy of a mere Kindergardner is going to help, but here goes anyway. In Royce's four conceptions of Being, the first conception he calls "Realism" and asserts that "no serious thinker holds this conception". It is the view of the common man that reality is "out there" independent of us. That is SOM, just being called by a different name. You can read his entire thesis on the subject, if you care to. http://www.giffordlectures.org/Browse.asp?PubID=TPWATI&Volume=0&Issue=0&ArticleID=3 Or you can read his summary dismissal and make your own conclusion from that. "But viewed as an ultimate and complete metaphysical doctrine, and not as a convenient half-truth, Realism, as we shall find hereafter, upon a closer examination, needs indeed no external opposition. It rends its own world to pieces even as it creates it. It contradicts its own conceptions in uttering them. It asserts the mutual dependence of knowing and of Being in the very act of declaring Being independent. In brief, realism never opens its mouth without expounding an antinomy." Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
