Actually John, I have to disagree.

TV is, like everything else in life. 90% crap.
But the 10% is very good - we just have to be selective and discerning.

And I'm talking across popular (US) genres too, sit-coms, serial
dramas, satirical cartoons, not just intellectual and high-brow stuff.
Pragmatism can be fun - you know it makes sense.

Regards
Ian
(PS talk-shows and reality-TV easily populates 80% of the the 90% all
by itself.)

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:55 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Truth, like time itself, is a product of a conversation man has with
> himself about and through the techniques of communication he has invented."
>
> This according to Neal Postman in Amusing Ourselves to Death,  in his
> chapter on Media as Epistemology.  What a cool title for a chapter.
>
> "We are eager to tunnel under the Atlantic and bring the old world some
> weeks nearer to the new; but perchance the first news that will leak through
> into the broad flapping American ear will be that Princess Adelaide has the
> whooping cough"
>
> This according to Thoreau in Walden.  And what cranky Hank would say about
> J. Timberlake and friends is easy to imagine.
>
> "I raise no objection to television's junk.  The best things on TV are it's
> junk, and no one and nothing is seriously threatened by it.  Besides, we do
> not measure a culture by its output of undisguised trivialities but by what
> it claims as significant.  Therein is our problem, for television is at its
> most trivial and therefore, most dangerous when its aspirations are high,
> when it presents itself as a carrier of important cultural conversations.
>  The irony here is that this is what intellectual and  critics are
> constantly urging television to do.
>
> The trouble with such people is that they do not take television seriously
> enough.  For, like the printing press, television is nothing less than a
> philosophy of rhetoric.  To talk seriously about television, one must
> therefore talk of epistemology.  All other commentary is in itself trivial"
>
> Yeah, now I remember why I stopped reading this guy years ago.  He was
> saying the exact same thing as Jacques Ellul, except in English.  American
> English as opposed to English Translated from the Philosophical French.  I
> got so excited I went back and read more Ellul.
>
>
> I get a universal reaction I  when I talk about the fact that I don't have a
> tv, or it comes up - which it does all the time since the main topic of
> conversation anymore isn't the weather. "hey, didya see xxxxx on tv last
> night?"
>
> The reaction I get when I say "Nah, I don't have a tv" is first shocked
> amazement, and then agreement along the lines of  "I don't watch it much
> myself.  I just like the history channel."
>
> And somehow, this freaks me out more than if everybody just stuck with porn,
> jerry springer and cop car chase crashes.
>
> Because lets face it, even if the shows that unlock the secrets of the
> cosmos and history were absolutely real, the artifice of method transfers
> that reality into something different than reality.  A virtual manipuable
> reality, yeah that could be bad.
>
> But what's worse is the degrading of humanity into programmable robots.  It
> takes a careful reading and interpretation to decode what is in the word.
>  It is work.  Staring at a flickering tv screen  burns less calories than
> sleep or staring at a blank wall.  It's easier, it's more efficient, but it
> destroys intellect.
>
> Sometimes pragmatism isn't so much fun.
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