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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:20 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Well that's real nice, dave, but that wasn't your assignment. Watch out or > you're gonna flunk this course. I've got more sources on Royce's Absolute > than the SEP has with it's sips. You were supposed to be finding me some > Pirsig's thought. Specifically, why an "absolute" is incompatible with the > MoQ. > > That's the point were arguing at the moment. I can't address it unless I > know what it is. > > Unless, Andre's was the sum total of the disparagment. > > Doesn't like the "connotations". > > Is that gonna be the thrust of your side of the argument? Because if that's > all there is, then I'm gonna hang my head in shame at what our great > institutions of learning are producing these days, if that is seen as > "logical argumentation". > > Connotations. > > It's as bad as saying, I don't like the way it sounds because I had a dream > once where I was chased down and buggered by Australian Native Peoples with > their instruments and I can't bear the juxtaposition of "Abs" and "lute". > > So c'mon dave. Give me something to work with here. Don't tell me about > Royce, I've been chewing on him for some time. > > I'll be gone for the weekend, so no rush. > > John > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:46 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> The SEP article on Royce opens like this... >> >> Josiah Royce (1855-1916) was the leading American proponent of absolute >> idealism, the metaphysical view (also maintained by G. W. F. Hegel and F. H. >> Bradley) that all aspects of reality, including those we experience as >> disconnected or contradictory, are ultimately unified in the thought of a >> single all-encompassing consciousness. ...Royce's friendly but longstanding >> dispute with William James, known as "The Battle of the Absolute," deeply >> influenced both philosophers' thought. In his later works, Royce reconceived >> his metaphysics as an "absolute pragmatism" grounded in semiotics. This view >> dispenses with the Absolute Mind of previous idealism and instead >> characterizes reality as a universe of ideas or signs which occur in a >> process of being interpreted by an infinite community of minds. These minds, >> and the community they constitute, may themselves be understood as signs. >> Royce's ethics, philosophy of community, philosophy of religion, and logic >> reflect this metaphysical pos >> ition. >> >> Let pick out the what seems like the main thing. Royce was the leading >> proponent of the view that all aspects of reality are ultimately unified in >> the thought of a single all-embracing consciousness. That all-embracing >> consciousness is the same "Absolute" that Hegel and Bradley maintained. In >> his later works, Royce's Absolute Mind is replaced by an infinite community >> of minds. His pragmatic absolutism is grounded in semiotics and >> characterizes reality as signs and ideas. The community of minds that >> interpret this universe of signs and ideas are themselves signs and ideas. >> >> How's that? Something to chew on, eh? >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
