Hi Bo, Well, as I recall you and I both listed a number of principles of the MOQ way back when. So you were not always reluctant to adopt to the demands of the academy. If they want first principles, I say give it to them. At least it may open some of their stultified minds to the stunningly beautiful new world Pirsig brings to light.
You know, when in Rome . . . Regards, Platt On 17 Mar 2010 at 23:45, [email protected] wrote: > Platt, and all "fishes" in this pond. > > 16 Mach you wrote:: > > > Excellent summary of pragmatism in today's NY Times by Stanley Fish. > > The last few sentences should be enough to lure you into reading the > > full article: > > "When pragmatism tells us there are no first principles, it not > only disqualifies itself as a source of guidance and justification; > it disqualifies the whole enterprise (of philosophy), at least in its > more ambitious forms. What it leaves are the pleasures of > doing philosophy, the pleasures of thinking about thinking > freed from the burdensome expectation that we will finally get > somewhere. Now there's an advantage and a gift to boot." > (parens added) > > > According to Fish, pragmatists would dismiss the MOQ's first principle > > of universal Quality > > IMO all "isms" are part of the intellectual level's "philosophology" that > had its origin in Greece and what was called SOM in ZAMM and which > the Quality Ideas was supposed to be a relief from. Thus pragmatism, > non-pragmatism, radical pragmatism ...etc. makes no difference, none > will recognize the MOQ. > > "First principles"!? There are no lack of such. Look to Ham's system > where Essence is a first principle yet is mired in SOMish by the fact > that even Essence springs from a subjective mind and as such his > Essentialism is a(nother) theory ABOUT reality. The fact that there is > no subject/object - mind/matter - divide in the MOQ. That it only > arrived with the intellectual levels is still not grasped. > > Principles versus no principles" is an intern intellectual - academical - > disagreement, and the MOQ was meant to be a bomb under > Academy. At least by Phaedrus, but Pirsig of LILA started a disastrous > flirt with Academy, God knows for what reason, I thought for a long > while that he thought "....if I only can get a foot inside I can explode the > Quality bomb in their faces" But. no, it proved false. Pirsig arrived at > the Liverpool and received Dr McWatt's thesis graciously and > declared DMB to be his heir. It's come to this. > > OK enough > > Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
