[Ham]
> nothing arises independently (i.e., by its own power), 
> and that everything in existence is related and
> co-dependent. All except the knower, that is 
[Andre]
> Now, do you understand this? All is dependently arisen...except the knower.
> How stupid can we get? 

. 
Unsupported assertion, followewd by low-quality refutation. 

Craig 
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