On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
John > > Where evolution proposes individuation, Valuation proposes a judgement. > Without a thumbs up from valuation, the individual fades. I don't see this > as > individuality trumping DQ. Just the opposite. > > Joe > Evolution proposes individuation in the definition of an individual within > a > level of existence. 1 has to be defined before the logic of mathematics SQ > can function. Imho individuation comes before 1 and before DQ > > Ok. I'm really confused now. I thought indviduation WAS conceptualization of "1". Reliant upon conception of otherness valued as "many", without which "1" can't even be conceieved. Therefore, for Individuation or 1 to exist, valuation and otherness are both implicitly necessary. A fundamental trio. > Joe previously: > >> The individual exists. DQ exists in the individual. I was > flabbergasted at > the dependent role that DQ plays to ³individuality². There is no way of > knowing > DQ apart from the > ³individual². > > > John > > Well all this doesn't seem too flabbergasting to me. More like, "duh". > But > that's probably because of the murky waters problem of not even > understanding > what you're saying much of the time. > > > > > As far as DQ's dependency on individuality, it's a mutual thing, not a > hierarchical, but absolutely I agree that its a co-dependent relationship, > and > without the individual to embody values, there would be no values to see. > > Joe > I don’t know how to ask a question, John, about “individuation” coming > before DQ? Is there an analogy between the logic of a defined 1 > establishing the logic for 2,3,4,etc. and undefined DQ establishing a logic > for evolution, SOL? If I say yes then what is prior to DQ? I am at a loss > for words so I say ‘individuality’ necessary to DQ. Individuality and DQ > become separated. > But... "individuality necessary" logically implies a higher unified dualism - it takes relationship of the two for realization of either. Or anything, really. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
