Hello Bo,
I understand a pattern to be a sequence/repetition, having a beginning, a middle and an end, thus ever-changing and impermanent. DQ is always present, yes? Marsha On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Skutvik wrote: > Hi Marsha > > > 2 Apr. you wrote: > > >> This is how I understand the Intellectual (SOM) Level. From > >> the SOM perspective, there is the unknown and the known. > >> The known uses language as its primary tool. Language has been > >> built hand-in-hand with human understanding of reality, they have > >> evolved together, and they reflect reality as subjects and objects, > >> our language and subject-object metaphysics are interrelated. (In the > >> Social Level, this s-o understanding is unconscious.) In the > >> Intellectual Level the subject-object split is conscious, and has > >> undergone a dissection to strip the `subjective´ from influencing our > >> search for the external Truth in Nature. The Intellectual Level > >> represents a formal Subject-Object Metaphysics, SOM, and is > >> interconnected with the language we use to organize concepts and > >> assign meaning. This is accomplished by giving concepts artificial > >> boundaries and imaginary independence. > > > An impressive analysis. I recognize the difficulty in this "SOM-as- > > MOQ's 4th level/SOM-as-MOQ's-antagonist" juggling. The > > known/unknown as part of intellect's repertoire, but not in the sense of > > unknown=subjective and known=objective, merely as "knowledge". > > > I think the S/O split isn't merely "unconscious" but completely absent > > at the social level, why it (social value) was regarded as Quality itself > > by ZAMM (the Aretê that SOM =intellect ousted from > > the scene) > > >> From the MoQ perspective, Reality = Quality(DQ(unpatterned > >> experience)/sq(patterned experience(inorganic, biological, social, > >> intellectual & code of art))). Every pattern contained within every > >> level, including intellectual static patterns of value, is represented > >> in that `sq´. Patterns are provisional, interrelated, ever-changing, > >> and impermanent. > > > Static patterns as interrelated, "yes", but ever-changing and impermanent" > > ... hmmm. "Static" means never changing - not having the capacity for > > change until DQ prods it. I would say the static levels and patterns are > > "incomplete" compared to the DQ/SQ which is the complete > > configuration. > > > > > Bodvar > > > ? > > ? > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
