Hello again, To account for the variations of a pattern, I like to use the double negative, or pattern-x is opposite-from-non-pattern-x. There could be a lot of individual variation within that type of definition.
Marsha On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:08 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > > Hello Bo, > > I understand a pattern to be a sequence/repetition, having a beginning, > a middle and an end, thus ever-changing and impermanent. DQ is always > present, yes? > > > Marsha > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Skutvik wrote: > >> Hi Marsha >> >> >> 2 Apr. you wrote: >> >> >>> This is how I understand the Intellectual (SOM) Level. From >> >>> the SOM perspective, there is the unknown and the known. >> >>> The known uses language as its primary tool. Language has been >> >>> built hand-in-hand with human understanding of reality, they have >> >>> evolved together, and they reflect reality as subjects and objects, >> >>> our language and subject-object metaphysics are interrelated. (In the >> >>> Social Level, this s-o understanding is unconscious.) In the >> >>> Intellectual Level the subject-object split is conscious, and has >> >>> undergone a dissection to strip the `subjective´ from influencing our >> >>> search for the external Truth in Nature. The Intellectual Level >> >>> represents a formal Subject-Object Metaphysics, SOM, and is >> >>> interconnected with the language we use to organize concepts and >> >>> assign meaning. This is accomplished by giving concepts artificial >> >>> boundaries and imaginary independence. >> >> >> An impressive analysis. I recognize the difficulty in this "SOM-as- >> >> MOQ's 4th level/SOM-as-MOQ's-antagonist" juggling. The >> >> known/unknown as part of intellect's repertoire, but not in the sense of >> >> unknown=subjective and known=objective, merely as "knowledge". >> >> >> I think the S/O split isn't merely "unconscious" but completely absent >> >> at the social level, why it (social value) was regarded as Quality itself >> >> by ZAMM (the Aretê that SOM =intellect ousted from >> >> the scene) >> >> >>> From the MoQ perspective, Reality = Quality(DQ(unpatterned >> >>> experience)/sq(patterned experience(inorganic, biological, social, >> >>> intellectual & code of art))). Every pattern contained within every >> >>> level, including intellectual static patterns of value, is represented >> >>> in that `sq´. Patterns are provisional, interrelated, ever-changing, >> >>> and impermanent. >> >> >> Static patterns as interrelated, "yes", but ever-changing and impermanent" >> >> ... hmmm. "Static" means never changing - not having the capacity for >> >> change until DQ prods it. I would say the static levels and patterns are >> >> "incomplete" compared to the DQ/SQ which is the complete >> >> configuration. >> >> >> >> >> Bodvar >> >> >> ? >> >> ? >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
