Marsha to Andre:

What was Buddha doing sitting under that Bo Tree?  My guess he was
meditating and using his intellect (rationality&  scientific observation) to
study the mind.

Andre:
Hi Marsha, not sure he was doing this. At least, this is not what 'legend' says 
about his quest.
He was deeply concerned about questions relating to the meaning of life in the 
process of living it. He wondered what the point of it all was amid the 
sickness, old age, death and human suffering he saw all around him.
He had been exposed to the various religious and philosophical 
explanations/views about this and saw (for example)in the Hindu ritualistic 
religious (soteriological) practices an overemphasis on the determinate (SQ) 
rather than the indeterminate (DQ)nature of life. Rituals are to 
'reveal'/'safeguard' Quality, not obscure it. The Buddha, put simply, saw, and 
was disillusioned by, this notion that Quality was replaced by static 
representations of it. (needles to say, all of the 'Western' and 'Middle 
Eastern' religions have fallen prey to this).

To quote Northrop:'Thereby, the root insight of Brahmanism, the true nature of 
the divine,that is,the compassionately moving, indeterminate aesthetic 
continuum, had been lost'(p380).

This is what set the Buddha on his path and I doubt very much that he applied 
his 'rationality' or his 'scientific observation' to 'study the mind'.

He came to devote his time and energy to 'finding a way to extricate himself from the universal despair that seemed to form the very ground of human existence...And then, while seated under a tree, Gautama experienced enlightenment. At last he thoroughly understood the human problem,its origin, its ramifications, and its solution'. ( Hagan, p6-7).

To finish with Northrop: ' The important point, however, is that the Buddha, for all his return to and more insistent emphasis upon the primacy of the indeterminate, immediately experienced, all embracing Nirvana, was the starkest of realists. It is precisely because of this realism with respect to, and his fellow feeling for, the immediately experienced pains and sufferings of men and animals and plants that he has attached unto himself and deservedly earned the name of the compassionate Buddha'(ibid).

It is not difficult to make the link to both James and Pirsig in this regard ( i.e their insistence on pragmatism and radical empiricism) as this appears, to me at least, to point to the essence of the MOQ that Pirsig was talking about and the link to Eastern 'mystical' insights of the indeterminate aesthetic continuum i.e. Quality

To paraphrase Pirsig: if a metaphysics doesn't in some way seek to improve the world, then forget about it.

For what it is worth.
Andre




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