Hi John, I'm in the process of writing a book as well. In fact, Pirsig's style has been a strong influence on my style.
If it were not a copyright violation I would call it Zen, The Cross, and Motorcycle Maintenance. He has left out a view. Other possible titles are The Cross, The Clock, the Lotus, but probably, The Cross, the Clock, The Circle. Pirsig has overlooked a view. Yes, we need a new paradigm. But he has not "transcended the opposites", even the opposites of the Enlightenment and Romanticism which are reflected in the Title-Zen representing the Romantic roots and influences of nature worship and a nature based system of belief, and MM, representing the world view of modern science and the Enlightenment. As I tried to make the case on the Roots thread, he does not transcend these views, but is viewing reality from the Romantic perspective-which was all about transcending opposites as well. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Jon B, > > Philosophy 101 - Know Thyself. You say Pirsig fails at this task. I'd > like > to know how you reach that conclusion. He wrote a whole book objectifying > himself as Phaedrus, analyzing his motivations and premises and reaching a > conclusion that overthrows his own metaphysical basis. > > What more can a guy do? > > John C. > > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Jon Bennett <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hey Guys, > > > > Sometimes philosophers don't understand the implications, or even the > core > > assumptions of their own ideas. This is very common in the history of > > philosophy, with one philosopher decrying the way he is grouped or > > classified, or the uses made of their philosophy. > > > > Sometimes they are right. Sometime they don't see the larger trend that > > they > > are a part of, or the fuller implications or the erroneuous assumptions > of > > their thought. This, I believe, is the case with with Pirsig. > > > > Be Sweet, > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
