Jon to dmb:
In Christianity, Christ is the Logos, the Logos who became flesh and dwelt
among us. The book of John opens with 'In the beginning was the logos, and
the logos was with God and the logos was God.
Andre:
And Jesus was begotten by Mary, in mythology (read Campbell's Masks of God')
commonly identified with the aesthetic, emotional female principle. Plato
'arbitrarily' branded this female principle as 'evil' and the male, rational
principle as 'good'. In Pirsig's words Plato had 'encapsulated' it.
'Consequently, it is to this rational factor termed, God the Father, that the
Divine (read Quality/the Good)is restricted in the orthodox Christian religion
of the West, whether Catholic or Protestant'( Northrop, p59).
And it was under this guise that the old church fathers had demoted Mary, not
according her 'divine' status in her own right but only according her this
status as mediated through her son, the rational principle. Encapsulated by
Plato and cemented-in by Aristotle. (Thomism)
Pirsig has described the devastating effect this has had upon our understanding
of nature's order and goes on to argue that: '...it's time to further an
understanding of nature's order by reassimilating those passions which were
originally fled from. The passions, the emotions, the affective domain of man's
consciousness,[the 'female aesthetic principle] are a part of nature's order
too'. (ZMM,p294)
The rational principle, (the 'Christ'/ Truth) is a species of the Good, ('Mary'
the aesthetic, emotional female principle).
Once this is properly understood and rectified (as in the MOQ)according each
their proper status (the rationally postulated and the immediately apprehended)
we can move a little closer to understanding the 'Eastern' religions. Once the
latter understand the rational/theoretical, postulated principle we can move
toward mutual understanding.
I doubt if we can expect this to come from within the Christian church itself.
They have too much to lose and will carry on their static, deceptive and
abusive, narrow minded practices. And not just targeting innocent 5-year olds.
Moq_Discuss mailing list
Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
Archives:
http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
http://moq.org/md/archives.html