Thanks, Andre. That's a nice way to put it. In some broad sense, we could say 
that overcoming the blind spot to DQ in our culture would serve the cause of 
feminism. I realize that sounds like some kind of joke, but I'm not kidding.



> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:43:21 +0200
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MD] A fly in the MOQ ointment
> 
> Jon to dmb:
> 
> In Christianity, Christ is the Logos, the Logos who became flesh and dwelt
> among us. The book of John opens with 'In the beginning was the logos, and
> the logos was with God and the logos was God.
> 
> Andre:
> And Jesus was begotten by Mary, in mythology (read Campbell's Masks of God') 
> commonly identified with the aesthetic, emotional female principle. Plato 
> 'arbitrarily' branded this female principle as 'evil' and the male, rational 
> principle as 'good'. In Pirsig's words Plato had 'encapsulated' it. 
> 'Consequently, it is to this rational factor termed, God the Father, that the 
> Divine (read Quality/the Good)is restricted in the orthodox Christian 
> religion of the West, whether Catholic or Protestant'( Northrop, p59).
> 
> And it was under this guise that the old church fathers had demoted Mary, not 
> according her 'divine' status in her own right but only according her this 
> status as mediated through her son, the rational principle. Encapsulated by 
> Plato and cemented-in by Aristotle. (Thomism)
> 
> Pirsig has described the devastating effect this has had upon our 
> understanding of nature's order and goes on to argue that: '...it's time to 
> further an understanding of nature's order by reassimilating those passions 
> which were originally fled from. The passions, the emotions, the affective 
> domain of man's consciousness,[the 'female aesthetic principle] are a part of 
> nature's order too'. (ZMM,p294)
> 
> The rational principle, (the 'Christ'/ Truth) is a species of the Good, 
> ('Mary' the aesthetic, emotional female principle).
> 
> Once this is properly understood and rectified (as in the MOQ)according each 
> their proper status (the rationally postulated and the immediately 
> apprehended) we can move a little closer to understanding the 'Eastern' 
> religions. Once the latter understand the rational/theoretical, postulated 
> principle we can move toward mutual understanding.
> 
> I doubt if we can expect this to come from within the Christian church 
> itself. They have too much to lose and will carry on their static, deceptive 
> and abusive, narrow minded practices. And not just targeting innocent 5-year 
> olds.
> 
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