dmb said:
Notice that the pragmatists are not only rejecting SOM but also taking up those
two categories of experience. Primary and secondary are dynamic and static or
preconceptual and reflective. But Rorty rejected this distinction and that's
why he's wrong.
"To understand why Rorty is wrong," Hildebrand says, "requires that we briefly
revisit and defend the underlying distinction between primary and secondary
experience, a distinction Rorty also rejects as 'bad faith'". (116-7)
Steve replied:
I don't know what epistemological mileage you can get out of this
primary/secondary distinction that Rorty can't get in other ways.
dmb says:
Yea, I know you don't know, even though I've showed it to you in the words of 8
or ten different writers, it still just doesn't register. Somehow, I think you
know less about it than you did when we started.
Look Steve. Here you are dismissing primary and secondary experience and this
means you are dismissing the dynamic/static distinction of the MOQ.
Earlier you had also used your Rortyism to dismiss pure experience and this
mean you are dismissing DQ.
This would be a lot less objectionable if you demonstrated any real
understanding and or if you made a relevant case for rejecting the MOQ in favor
of Rortyism, but you haven't and apparently you can't even see how they differ.
You take all of the MOQ's most central terms and just throw them out the window
for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual content of the ideas.
Considering the context, I think that's pretty damn obnoxious. And coming from
me, that's really saying something.
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