Today, Steve said:
Again, that is just not what is normally meant by truth. You are of course free
to try to win over people to a new way of using an old word, but I think the
common sense notion of truth is worth keeping to keep track of what we used to
believe to be true that turned out to actually be false or vice versa.
But yesterday, Steve said the opposite:
All I can see that you are getting out of radical empiricism from the point of
view of epistemology in pragmatic terms is this: Some beliefs lead us to
successful action and some do not. But then we already knew that.
dmb says:
So, on one day the pragmatic theory of truth adds nothing and only offers
something we already knew but on the next day the pragmatic theory of truth is
just not what is normally meant by truth. You're really not sure what to think
of this theory, eh Steve? One day it's just common sense and the next day it
defies common sense so profoundly that we shouldn't even call it truth.
But you see, Steve, there is a reason for using an old word in a new way. Some
version of the correspondence theory of truth has existed for 25 centuries and
that's the theory radical empiricism rejects. The fact that you are
re-asserting this old notion of truth against pragmatism only shows that you
have missed the central point. I mean, if they are disputing the traditional
notions of "truth", then of course "truth" means something new.
As I have tried to explain many times, by insisting on that traditional notion
of "truth", you're insisting that we use failed concepts to define it. You're
insisting that pragmatic truth be defined in the very terms it opposes. You're
insisting on a definition of truth that has created fake problems throughout
the history of philosophy and that the pragmatic theory of truth seeks to
overcome.
I think that your objections only demonstrate a lack of comprehension.
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