Hi John
JB has resigned from the list as he stated, along with the usual
invective expected from a sulky prima donna when asked to play nicely,
along the lines of anti freedom of speech, mean spiritedness etc. which
isn't the case. I can't say I'm that bothered about his disappearance
and I did give him a chance to alter the way he views the purpose of
this list, which is to discuss the MoQ and Pirsigs work in general.
Let me make it quite clear that I have no problem at all with your views
on theism, intelligence, your fascination with Joyce or whatever it is
that you want to discuss because I believe that underlying this is an
interest in Pirsigs work. Similarly, other members are, as always, free
to join in with their views and different perspectives and discuss their
current interests in relation to the MoQ and Pirsig. I like variety and
don't want the list to get bogged down with a single view of how we talk
and relate our positions to one another, the MoQ and to Pirsig. Platt
has his way, Bo has his, Marsha has hers, Mary hers, Dave, Steve, Ian,
Arlo, Andre, Adrie etc. etc. have theirs. Even Ham, with his view of how
the MoQ relates to his essentialism is welcome here because he conducts
himself well, makes interesting points, gives others a chance to
disagree and doesn't treat others as if they were simple minded fools -
well not most of the time or any more than anyone else. :) I may not
agree with Ham or you, Bo, Platt, Marsha, Mary or anyone else on the
list but I don't tell you what you may or may not say or think or how to
express yourselves.
But when some arrogant gobshite turns up on the list and effectively
tries to tell me that my friends are a bunch of cultish (yes I did spell
that correctly) fuckwits discussing the unoriginal, naive and childish
ramblings of a rank amateur philosopher that gets right up my nose. For
my money, the only cult (incorrect spelling) around here was JB. He was
not going to achieve his desire to dominate the list with a position
that has nothing to do with the MoQ and was completely at odds with just
about everything that Pirsigs work promotes. I think he realised this
and decided that remaining would be a waste of his time and ours.
We got the usual old hypocritical crap about freedom etc. as if he'd
accept the same in a similar position.
As you said John, metaphysics ain't for sissies!
Horse
On 03/05/2010 06:01, John Carl wrote:
Ok Adrie.
And horse.
And all.
I wanna weigh in on the topic myself. I promised JB I wouldn't make any
personal comments about him or analyze him for he found that offensive. So
I've tried to keep my, um, "mouth" shut.
But there's probably more I should say along these lines, because after all,
if anybody has been in defense of theism, I have, so far. Getting a fellow
god-thinking type person has a lot of attraction to me.
But.... I thought Horse's admonition was perfect, to the point and
apropos.
At the same time, i hope JB takes his lumps and sticks it out. If not, oh
well. Metaphysics ain't for sissies.
I will say one thing in his defense. He thought Dan Glover was RMP in
disguise. I appreciated that. If there's a better rhetorician, writer or
person that this list, or this society for that matter, has offered up than
Dan, I've yet to meet the person. Seeing Dan's quality, right off the bat
like that, seems a sign of good sense at least and if he (JB) does decide to
straighten up and stick around I'm willing to give him another chance.
Openess to dynamic change is a better indicator than static excellence.
'nuff said.
John
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fam. Kintziger-Karaca<
[email protected]> wrote:
Hi , Group
Need to say this horse , i was reading some postings , came across the last
bennett-horse item.
reading Bennet somethimes since i am here,......
have to agree , that these enforced items he is declaring , are in fact ,
total crap.
it not only is deviating people towards the wrong points of view , it
deviates them away from their patterns of value.
complete crap.
It is the introduction of the crap-level towards the set of mr Pirsig.
been reading this fundamentalist-issue emerging.
this is my opinion, fundamentalists and die-hards are not the same ,
fundamentalists are , in fact, dangerous.
Regards Adrie.
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