A word of thanks to you Horse for keeping this group going and the time taken to ensure a conducive environment for the free flowing dynamic discussions. I
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Horse <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi John > > JB has resigned from the list as he stated, along with the usual invective > expected from a sulky prima donna when asked to play nicely, along the lines > of anti freedom of speech, mean spiritedness etc. which isn't the case. I > can't say I'm that bothered about his disappearance and I did give him a > chance to alter the way he views the purpose of this list, which is to > discuss the MoQ and Pirsigs work in general. > Let me make it quite clear that I have no problem at all with your views on > theism, intelligence, your fascination with Joyce or whatever it is that you > want to discuss because I believe that underlying this is an interest in > Pirsigs work. Similarly, other members are, as always, free to join in with > their views and different perspectives and discuss their current interests > in relation to the MoQ and Pirsig. I like variety and don't want the list to > get bogged down with a single view of how we talk and relate our positions > to one another, the MoQ and to Pirsig. Platt has his way, Bo has his, Marsha > has hers, Mary hers, Dave, Steve, Ian, Arlo, Andre, Adrie etc. etc. have > theirs. Even Ham, with his view of how the MoQ relates to his essentialism > is welcome here because he conducts himself well, makes interesting points, > gives others a chance to disagree and doesn't treat others as if they were > simple minded fools - well not most of the time or any more than anyone > else. :) I may not agree with Ham or you, Bo, Platt, Marsha, Mary or anyone > else on the list but I don't tell you what you may or may not say or think > or how to express yourselves. > But when some arrogant gobshite turns up on the list and effectively tries > to tell me that my friends are a bunch of cultish (yes I did spell that > correctly) fuckwits discussing the unoriginal, naive and childish ramblings > of a rank amateur philosopher that gets right up my nose. For my money, the > only cult (incorrect spelling) around here was JB. He was not going to > achieve his desire to dominate the list with a position that has nothing to > do with the MoQ and was completely at odds with just about everything that > Pirsigs work promotes. I think he realised this and decided that remaining > would be a waste of his time and ours. > We got the usual old hypocritical crap about freedom etc. as if he'd accept > the same in a similar position. > > As you said John, metaphysics ain't for sissies! > > Horse > > > > On 03/05/2010 06:01, John Carl wrote: > >> Ok Adrie. >> >> And horse. >> >> And all. >> >> I wanna weigh in on the topic myself. I promised JB I wouldn't make any >> personal comments about him or analyze him for he found that offensive. >> So >> I've tried to keep my, um, "mouth" shut. >> >> But there's probably more I should say along these lines, because after >> all, >> if anybody has been in defense of theism, I have, so far. Getting a >> fellow >> god-thinking type person has a lot of attraction to me. >> >> But.... I thought Horse's admonition was perfect, to the point and >> apropos. >> >> At the same time, i hope JB takes his lumps and sticks it out. If not, oh >> well. Metaphysics ain't for sissies. >> >> I will say one thing in his defense. He thought Dan Glover was RMP in >> disguise. I appreciated that. If there's a better rhetorician, writer >> or >> person that this list, or this society for that matter, has offered up >> than >> Dan, I've yet to meet the person. Seeing Dan's quality, right off the bat >> like that, seems a sign of good sense at least and if he (JB) does decide >> to >> straighten up and stick around I'm willing to give him another chance. >> >> Openess to dynamic change is a better indicator than static excellence. >> >> 'nuff said. >> >> John >> >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fam. Kintziger-Karaca< >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi , Group >>> Need to say this horse , i was reading some postings , came across the >>> last >>> bennett-horse item. >>> >>> reading Bennet somethimes since i am here,...... >>> have to agree , that these enforced items he is declaring , are in fact , >>> total crap. >>> it not only is deviating people towards the wrong points of view , it >>> deviates them away from their patterns of value. >>> complete crap. >>> >>> It is the introduction of the crap-level towards the set of mr Pirsig. >>> >>> >>> been reading this fundamentalist-issue emerging. >>> this is my opinion, fundamentalists and die-hards are not the same , >>> fundamentalists are , in fact, dangerous. >>> >>> Regards Adrie. >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >>> >>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> > > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > — Frank Zappa > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- [email protected] 6016-301 4079 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
