Hi Bo, What dmb took to be a bitter attack was just my frustration with not finding the right words. I really do feel a need to be quiet, and a need for a silent walk in the woods. Maybe the words will come. Thanks for the support. I do admire your big heart.
Marsha On May 12, 2010, at 2:56 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Marsha, Arlo. > > 11 May.: > > [Arlo] >>> If all intellectual patterns are SOM, what is the "cancerous" >>> element you speak of? Indeed, what was it that Pirsig lamented when >>> the Sophists were run under by Plato? We certainly can't lament that >>> intellect was infested with SOM, since intellect IS SOM. I suppose >>> you could lament that intellect achieved dominance, but if that is a >>> bad thing, why did Pirsig place it atop his moral hierarchy? > > ZAMM needs some MOQ adjustment and the Sophist issue is the > most needy issue. Their strife with Plato was the budding intellectual > level's subjectivism's versus its objectivism that still haunts intellect > ...in its SOM capacity role!!!!!. Intellect was not infested with SOM, > rather the S/O value fossilizes into a S/O METAPHYSICS !!! > > Marsha: >> I understand intellectual patterns to be built on the SOM premise. >> Some will stay valid, some will become irrelevant or, indeed, harmful. >> Those intellectual patterns that lose their validity will fall back >> into oblivion. > > Right you are Marsha, Intellect's value is the S/O distinction, which > went unchecked on to become a SOM which has given the West a > technological heaven but a metaphysical hell ... until RMP came and > cut the Gordic Knot that was impossible to see - much less cut - from > within SOM , within intellect. It requires a bootstrap operation to lift > ourselves to the Quality level, something the academics have no > intention of trying, they want, the MOQ to remain an intellectual > pattern and as long as that view rules it's just a complicated SOM. > Arlo may be small fry here, it's DMB who is the big roadblock. > > Bodvar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> [Marsha] >>> "All one has to do"? Right! I'm not so stupid to fall for that >>> kind of trickery. Must you resort to such nonsense. > >>> [Arlo] >>> Sigh. I suppose I should just "meow" and pretend that people don't >>> write here what they do. >> >> Marsha: >> Your statement was in the same category as "Every schoolchild knows." >> It's an insult, and I would prefer not to play that way. So meow away >> if you think that wins you intellectual points. I will just ignore >> you, or stop playing. >> >> >>> >>> [Marsha] >>> If you do not like the intellectual level being an advancement over >>> the social level, maybe you do not agree with the idea of evolution? >>> >>> [Arlo] >>> Huh? Is today "opposite day"? Did I miss that? >> >> Marsha: >> Maybe I misunderstood, but it seemed you were defending the social >> level from being called inferior to the intellectual level. >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
