On 5/17/10 5:36 AM, "Mary" <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is a difference between SOL (subject-object logic) and SOM > (subject-object metaphysics). I'm no historian, but think the emergence of > SOM is what Pirsig sees in Socrates' and Aristotle's time. > > SOL is as old as the Biological Level and germinated from simplistic > survival thoughts through rudimentary society on up to highly complex social > and religious ideas until it finally outgrew even the Social to achieve the > Intellectual Level we see expressed as SOM. <snip> Hi Mary and all, Imho: SOL (Subject/Object Level) is a metaphysics for evolution. DQ/SQ are indefinable/definable reality. Only poetic analogy and metaphor can focus my attention in recognizing DQ. SQ is a definable reality in 4 levels inorganic, organic1, organic2, intellectual. I prefer to see the intellectual level as the only defined level in consciousness. The emotional level, the higher social and the higher intellectual level are levels in DQ alone. So what is evolution? Levels in existence describe evolution. The Inorganic SQ, organic1 (cell splitting) SQ, organic 2 (penetration of the egg cell wall by a sperm cell for reproduction) SQ, emotional DQ, intellectual SQ, higher emotional DQ, higher intellectual DQ levels exist. The social level is a combination term for the last four levels. It is not a precise formulation for a level of evolution necessary for the explanation of MOQ DQ/SQ. The individual is defined in all levels. The individuation necessary for the logic of evolution is not found in a social level. The social contract cannot precede the intellectual level. Joe Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
