Andre to Mary:
>  Is death subject or object? Is suffering subject or object? Is sickness
>  subject or object? Is yin/ yang subject or object? Is form/
>  formlessness subject or object???

Mary says:Yes.

Andre:
Yes what? Commit yourself Mary! As dmb has argued in a previous post, your SOM use is beyond its bounds. SOM postulates either this or that Mind eternally separated from matter. Which one is it? We are talking about clear divisions here. Mind or matter, material or mental, objects or subjects, physical or psychological ...what else do you want? You maintain the separation which the MOQ is unifying....yes! at the intellectual level...this is its strength! The Good can be intellectually defended!

And if and when you say it is the subject/ object aggregate (as Bodvar would have it) and if we understand by 'object' meaning inorganic and organic patterns of value ( which in SOM are completely different ideas and postulates as opposed to be understood in the MOQ) and subjects are social and intellectual patterns of value...then we may come a bit closer... but to be understood not from a SOM perspective but from the intellectual pattern called MOQ.


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