[John] Now some people find that sort of dialogue confusing - I term such people "them". The people who find it illuminating, I call "us".
[Arlo] I have no problem with koans, or any other artform that pushes us to glimpse the unseeable. My problem, again, is that Pirsig's refusal to clarify confusion about what he meant leaves the dialogue trapped and unable to evolve. We have the same arguments over and over. Its not about wanting a "papal bull", there is NO author I read and think what they propose is unassailable. Witness how prolific Peirce, e.g., has been in explaining his ideas, and yet no one bemoans him for issuing "papal bulls". But no one is arguing "well, Peirce meant 'icons' to mean photographs/no, he obviously was talking about tactile experiences/no no, 'icons' are little fluffy hamsters that squeak when they are fed cheese". Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
