Arlo said to John:
... conflicts over what an author "says" and conflicts over whether an author
is "right" about something are different animals. ... I don't know of any other
author who is accused of fostering "orthodoxy" by ensuring the clarity of their
ideas. ... I make no secret of where I disagree with Pirsig. But this makes it
about ego and its not about ego. .., its about Pirsig saying "this is what I
think, this is what I am proposing, agree or disagree as you see fit".
dmb says:
I'm with Arlo here. In fact, it has always baffled me how demands of clear
thought can be taken as a form of oppressive conformity. If Pirsig had built a
motorcycle instead of a metaphysical system, to use the most obvious analogy,
that would be like taking the demands mechanical competence as a form of
oppressive conformity.
But the opposite is true. The ability to freely tinker with the machine, like
using a beer can for a shim, totally depends on a precise understanding how the
machine works. Some of the parts have to be very, very precise or they just
won't work. As a result, there is just no way to successfully bullshit your way
through a repair job. And I don't see why this should be any less true for
metaphysics.
The point, of course, is that you should wear a helmut when you post here and
be forever vigilant about gravel on the curves.
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