Arlo, Platt, Andre, All.

[Andre] originally:
> Mr. Pirsig did NOT regard 'intellect = the S/O distinction' in ZMM!

[Platt] comments
> The hell he didn't. Check out his discussion of the two horns of the
> subject-object dilemma presented by English department intellectuals
> at Bozeman.

[Arlo] chimes in:
> Andre is correct (as usual). You are mistaking the dominant 
> intellectual pattern of Western culture, which Pirsig WAS combatting,
> with the entirety of the intellectual level. Pirsig has said outright
> he does NOT consider "intellect=SOM". You can disagree him, for sure,
> and you can support Bo's MOQ over Pirsig's MOQ, but you can not say
> Pirsig regards "intellect=S/O distinction" when it is clear he did
> not, nor does not.

Bo chimes out:
Fist thank you Platt. When will this about cultures as intellectual 
patterns end, it makes the Stone Age - tens of thousand of years 
before the 4th. level is supposed to have emereged (according to 
LILA) an intellectual hot-bed.  As if the biological and social  levels 
have "Western cultures" not to speak of matter in USA being  
"Western inorganic values" different from Asian ditto. I have hitherto 
consider you Arlo a reasonable fellow, but your anti-SOL eagerness 
takes the best of you and - like Andre - makes a fool of yourself .....  
well, nuff said. No the intellectual level is the same STATIC S/O 
distinction wherever DQ have brought Q-evolution up to that plane, be 
it on earth or on the other side of the universe. And it was this intellect 
- while still SOM - that Phaedrus opposed and confronted in the said 
dilemma and elsewhere.

And FYI Arlo, Pirsig's latest communique was: "If the SOL has value it 
will percolate to the top"  and it seems to be on its way up. Please stop 
this slanderous way of debating. 

Bodvar    










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