Dan and Dave 24 Jun.
Dan: > > The tao is called the way but it isn't a place or a destination. The > > tao is experience. It is constantly defined yet inexhaustible. All > > that is, was, and will be springs forth from it and trickles back to > > it. Dynamic Quality is synonymous with the tao. It is not active yet > > it never rests. It is not static yet it may be defined by that very > > nature. Dynamic Quality is not this, not that. > dmb says: > Yea, I like yours better, Dan. I don't think DQ ought to be defined as > active even within the thought system we call the MOQ. Within the > metaphysical system "DQ" is defined as undefinable and it is explained > that it can't be defined because the term refers to experience prior > to any conceptualizations. Besides that, Yin and Yang are active and > passive, not active and static. As one half of a dualistic > conceptualization, they're both static. But for Goodness sake The MOQ does say that there is a Dynamic Quality as dynamic as dynamic comes, so why postulate another still more dynamic one that the first variety is a "static" fall-out from. Are there some serious drawbacks from saying that the MOQ describes the Quality Reality? Or is it - what I strongly suspect - that you see the DQ/SQ partitioning taking place in the subjective mind of Man and is thus forced to postulate a Quality independent of Man's mind: an "objective" one? The MOQ is a break with SOM so why let it return under a thin "dynamic/static" guise? Bodvar > > I think it works quite well to think of DQ itself as "the way". If > putting these concepts to work in actual experience means following > DQ, as I think is what it means, then "the way" is not something that > we can know in advance or measure in anyway. It's just this vague > sense of what's right and what's not. It doesn't even matter if you're > fighting in a war or writing poetry. It just means NOT painting by > numbers but by an active engagement and an openness and sensitivity to > what's happening as it happens. > > There is good example from the first few pages of a book called "How > We Decide". A pro quarterback has learned all the plays and signals > and practiced them over and over plus he has a lot of experience with > the game in general, right? Been playing all his life and he's getting > the big bucks cause very few are better at it than she is. So the play > is called, the ball is snapped and giant dudes are running around > everywhere, with all the biggest ones on the other team doing their > best to murder him. He's just got a few seconds to find an open > receiver. There's no way in hell she has time to calculate or > rationally decide which option is best. He's not playing chess and > neither are the 300 pound linebackers who are coming down on him any > second now. All he can do is scan the field and when he gets a good > feeling - I shit you not - a GOOD FEELING, he let's her fly. That > decision process works. If it didn't, he'd wouldn't be making millions > of dollars for his ability to "decide" o > n the basis of a feeling. It feels right, he acts on it and it very > quickly proves to have been right and yet there was no time to think > about it. In a very real sense, she was just following the way. This > isn't magic. It's not a miracle. It's just being groovy, in the flow, > and that can't happen without the static patterns she spent so many > years mastering. Same with motorcycle repair or metaphysics. DQ does > not magically turn hacks and amateurs into skilled professionals. It > has to be applied to whatever you're already pretty good at, you > know? > > You're a really great writer, Dan. Even the short stuff is elegant and > powerful. You rock. > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from > your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAG > L:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, > Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
