Hmmm Mary and all ... you meant the recent transcript from the "Zen & Art" piece ...
OK, an "informal", "ad-lib" conversation as Pirsig calls it. Hardly the text of a definitive argument. Just for the record, no surprise, those particular recalled, informally ad-libbed Pirsig words do NOT even appear in his introduction to "Coffee With Plato" - I have it in front of me - he was just recalling the general idea of his thinking in relation to Plato. All this quoting of Pirsig's rhetoric as part of arguments (other than arguments about what he said, clearly) is a really scary trend - he's not some authoritative guru on whose every word we hang. But, in fact if I may purloin and adapt the old Hindu story that Pirsig does actually use there ... "There was a [MoQist] who swam about, searching high and low, far and wide, to find this mysterious thing he has heard of called [MoQ], and he never finds it." Regards Ian On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Mary <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ian, > > To be complete, here's an expansion of that quote. > > "I wrote in one introduction to Coffee with Plato that we live inside the > mind of Plato. That Plato is the man who invented reason, almost, as we see > it today. If you look at cultures outside of America, or if you look at > cultures before Plato, you find there wasn't much reason in them. They > settled disputes by revenge rather than by law and so on." > "For serious artists", it says here, "Quality should not be considered > subjective, Quality should be considered as reality itself." That's very > important. And if you can get that reality itself which is free from > subjectivity, free from ego, you have art." > >> "MoQ and the Art" ? >> Ian > > > Here's the entire thing. This is a transcription of the "MoQ & Art" section > of the recent DVD. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
