Hi DMB, don't believe I had Perhaps if I'd put the word logical in front of the word arguments - or used one of your current favourite phrases like "reductionist explanation" - I might have sounded less stupid DMB. I live in hope ;-)
Of course in a rounded sense his rhetoric must "comport" with is ideas ... in the round ... no better evidence as you say. But "evidence" in rhetoric is not the same as "proof" in logic - slicing and dicing individual phrases as proof of specific points is .... err reductionist, even exigenetic ... the scary trend to treat Bob's every word as "the word". Understanding all his words, passages in context, as opposed to hanging on every (individual) word or phrase in selective and definitive isolation. Of course understanding his ideas expressed in their context doesn't mean we can't develop a better understanding of better evolved ideas in our context, another 20 years on. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:11 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ian said: > All this quoting of Pirsig's rhetoric as part of arguments (other than > arguments about what he said, clearly) is a really scary trend - he's not > some authoritative guru on whose every word we hang. > > > > dmb says: > > Quoting Pirsig to defend Pirsig's ideas is not to argue from authority. There > is no better evidence for Pirsig's view. To suggest otherwise is just > foolish. Nothing else could possibly count better as evidence. > > Where did you ever get such a weird idea? The construe the MOQ in a way that > does not comport with Pirsig's words is thee most obvious way to be wrong > about the MOQ. And that's exactly what Bo and Marsha do. They claim this is > some kind of freedom but it's just intellectual decadence. It's immoral and, > to be perfectly frank, it's also kinda stupid. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
