Hi Magnus,
I heard a short interview with Verlinde on a pbs program. When I get a chance I will search youtube hoping to find a more in-depth talk. http://www.thetakeaway.org/2010/jul/14/argument-against-gravity/ (7minutes) Marsha On Jul 14, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Magnus Berg wrote: > Hi Marsha > > Cool paper. And I hope you understand what he tried to do in MoQ terms? He > tried to show how the inorganic pattern gravity is supported by the lower > quantum level. He said he didn't "believe" in gravity anymore, but he also > stated that gravity is an "emergent" property of space-time. So, if he > doesn't believe in gravity, then he doesn't believe in space or time either. > > He has simply moved a level down and now thinks that all levels above that > are just emergent properties of his new ground zero level. But we MoQ people > know that all levels are equally real. The most basic one is not more real > just because all others depend on it. > > The same thing can be said about smell, taste and other biological > experiences. "They are just emergent properties of inorganic processes." But > that doesn't recognize the biological reality of tasting a freshly harvested > cucumber from your very own green house. > > Magnus > > > > > On 2010-07-14 12:47, MarshaV wrote: >> http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100713/NEWS0107/7130383/1159/1159&nav_category=1159 >> >> >> >> Believe in gravity? Better think again >> >> It’s hard to imagine a more fundamental and ubiquitous aspect of life >> on the Earth than gravity, from the moment you first took a step and >> fell on your diapered bottom to the slow terminal sagging of flesh >> and dreams. >> >> But what if it’s all an illusion, a sort of cosmic frill, or a side >> effect of something else going on at deeper levels of reality? >> >> So says Erik Verlinde, 48, a respected string theorist and professor >> of physics at the University of Amsterdam, whose contention that >> gravity is indeed an illusion has caused a continuing ruckus among >> physicists, or at least among those who profess to understand it. >> Reversing the logic of 300 years of science, he argued in a recent >> paper, titled “On the Origin of Gravity and the Laws of Newton,” that >> gravity is a consequence of the venerable laws of thermodynamics, >> which describe the behavior of heat and gases. >> >> ... >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
